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jme:

Hi, I'm Jamie.

Pate:

I'm Patti. This is Motley Zoo Animal Rescue.

jme:

And our podcast, Rescue Ships. Today, we're going to talk about pet technology.

Pate:

In specifically, in specifically.

jme:

I haven't heard that in a long time.

Pate:

Um, yeah. Anyway, we're talking about GPS collars.

jme:

Well, that's one of the things, yes. So, GPS collars, people like to have them on, I suppose, if you have an outdoor, like, herding dog, or you have a lot of property, it's a large dog, a hunting dog, a Working dog may be the more acceptable situation for them to be kind of running around without you.

Pate:

If you like to hike.

jme:

Yeah, most situations, well even hiking they're supposed to be on leash. Yeah. Well around here. They're supposed to be. So having a GPS might be a handy thing for you. But we want to just kind of talk about some of the things. That you should know about them, what different kinds there are. And then we'll talk about some other technology too.

Pate:

Right. We first were introduced to GBS collars when we, worked with Soi Dog. Right. Now, unfortunately we cannot continue that relationship with Soi Dog because Washington is still one of the States that doesn't allow animals from international. Yeah. Certain, certain countries. are not allowed to bring dogs here. Soi Dog is still sending dogs over to the US, but not to Washington. Which is, you know, kind of unfortunate.

jme:

So before the pandemic, we worked with a Korean rescue. We work with Soi Dog in Thailand. I actually got to go visit them, last summer, which was really cool. It was. It's awesome to be able to see their, you know, their facility. We knew about them for a long time and they approached us about becoming a partner. And at the time it was cheaper to send the dogs. We gave them a discounted rate for vetting. So you know, instead of paying 800 for a pet, we paid much less than that for their vet care. They made up the difference. So even with transportation, getting the animals here was relatively easy.

Pate:

We only took a handful at a time.

jme:

Oh, yeah. I mean, we always say we look in our own backyard first, but, when you know what the plight of animals in other countries are, you can't turn a blind eye.

Pate:

Well, I mean, especially me, because I know it personally. Because, I actually was born in Thailand. Bangkok, actually. And then being an oil brat, we went home frequently, so I, I've always, always known about the street dogs. I've always had issues, I'm like, oh, let's stop, we gotta get those puppies, let's stop, let's do this, let's do that. And, I would spend so much money on the street vendors to have chicken. To me and fried chicken, to give to the street dogs because I was a kid and there was nothing else I could do. And so for me to know that there was something I could do now when I was helpless when I was younger was, it was kind of like a personal thing for me to, to take, Thai dogs.

jme:

Well, and during the pandemic, they had this problem where someone had sent, and we believe it was a shady, sketchy breeders, in China or somewhere like that, that don't care about the animals. They're sending them over at six weeks, way too young. And someone got a dog with rabies. And so that was a big problem. But what they decided to do was just. Cancel all transports, not recognizing that, rescues only fly dogs over six months typically, and they always have rabies vaccines. We care about what's happening and we don't want. To jeopardize the situation. So we're not going to take a risk, right? Someone's selling for profit. They don't give a shit. So they're going to do it. So they ruined it for everybody.

Pate:

Yeah. And just sad because Soi Dog does a lot for their dogs. I mean, surgeries, those, they do like blood tests. They're doing heartworm tests. They're doing heartworm treatments. I mean, they are treating these dogs. They are caring for these dogs. Very well, better than some rescue organizations in the U. S. Yet, like one bad apple spoils a bunch, man. Yeah, and so instead of taking it individually, the government's like, yep, everyone from this country, because we can't, you know, be bothered to check, you know, all these rescues out, personally, we're just gonna do a blanket statement.

jme:

Yeah. And there were A lot of countries that we couldn't, there were 114, I seem to remember that we, that the United States stopped taking animals from and Thailand was one of them. Yeah. But even after the pandemic, Korea was open for us taking animals. However, the cost of that by like threefold and

Pate:

2000

jme:

Yeah, and we all agreed. This is not worth worth it. Like we're waste. I don't want to say wasting money, but, but we can't spend 2, 000 transporting a dog. I mean, that's just,

Pate:

we actually, had a sponsor for that. And those specifically for Korean dogs.

jme:

Yeah. And those dogs were being saved primarily from the meat trade. They were being. Raised and killed and often not treated well because part of the belief of being afraid makes the meat taste better. So it's not just eating the dog, which I know which well Yeah, but It it's not just eating the dog that is reprehensible. It is How they do it and how they live and how they die

Pate:

kind of like our factory farms here.

jme:

Yeah That one's a tough one. Anyway, we want to move on to GPS collars. So we were introduced to the GPS collars by Soi Dog, and it was a requirement as part of our partnership that one, we not open the crates in the airport. Yeah, I don't let the dogs get out

Pate:

in the wrong way. I mean, in the right, I got in trouble for it in the right way.

jme:

Pate was defending that rule because one of the other rescues was not abiding by it.

Pate:

Correct.

jme:

They opened the crate of our dog and that our dog got bit them. And then they said. It was horrible. And Pate just yelled at them and said, you shouldn't have opened our dog's crate. Like you're not supposed to do that at all. Don't touch our dogs. The dog was blind.

Pate:

Yeah. And scared

jme:

and scared a transport. And why don't open the crate in the airport?

Pate:

It was busy. I mean, he's blind. So he's hearing everything and he's feeling everything.

jme:

Well, and another one, a long time ago, a foster, their sister was giving up their dog. And they flew the dog here, and we said do not open the crate in the airport. The dog had bitten somebody. And, not, not in the airport, like in the home. And that's why she was coming to us. Part of why they, they didn't want her anymore. So the woman, unfortunately, opened the crate in the airport. The dog was running through the airport, loose, and a police officer had to help. Thank God, she didn't bite somebody, especially the police officer. Yeah, we were like, yep. That's why we said don't open the crate.

Pate:

Mm hmm.

jme:

So don't open.

Pate:

She's like, who are you? Oh my god, I'm out of here.

jme:

Don't open the crate unless you're in a secure area

Pate:

Quiet. Yes and secure.

jme:

So anyway, their requirement was We'll provide you the GPS collars, you pay for the service, and any adopter has to continue the service for at least three months or six months or something.

Pate:

A year? Yeah, I thought it was a year.

jme:

I don't know. I can't remember. It was at least three to six months. Yeah. And this is because they had dogs go missing. The dogs are used to being on the streets. They are scared of people. They don't know what to do. And so sometimes they get spooked. And they run away.

Pate:

Especially at the beginning. Yeah. You know? A lot of, I mean, cause you're going, you're coming from the tropics. And you're like, all of a sudden you're dumped in Seattle where it's cold. You know? It's culture shock.

jme:

Mm hmm. One of the dogs that we got from Taiwan. In the early days, yeah, Taiwan, I forgot about that, but in the early days, she got loose. She pulled the leash out of the foster's hand, and when she was running away, she stepped on her own leash, had the martingale on, corrected herself, and just stopped and stood there because she didn't think she could move anymore. So they were able to approach her and get her, but that's not always likely to happen either.

Pate:

Yeah. So, yeah, and that's not gonna happen with a Thai dog.

jme:

No, because they're like, I'm out of here. Yeah. So Tractive was the brand that they used. And, explain a little bit about how it works.

Pate:

So Tractive is a GPS collar. Actually, it's a, it's a device that you attach to the collar. They've got like a little clip on, and you have your app where you can track it. The dog, actually, you know what, G and Mika Mika have tractive. Tracy got tractives for them. But, um,

jme:

Is that because she takes them to the beach and stuff? And they're

Pate:

I have no idea why she got tractive. Yeah. Anyway. Um, I don't know, like, I mean, cause Tameka's got a prey drive. She's a Malinois and, they live on the island and there's deer, you know, not that I don't know that Tameka has ever gotten out of their fence yard. But anyway, this is someone being better safe than sorry. Which is, you know, like we said in our previous podcast about lost dogs, GPS collars are your backup plan. And so that's Tracy, she's got, she's got that backup plan in place. It's square ish or whatever and then there's the clip on the back So the collar goes in between and you clip it on the collar the I like that Because you can wash the collar, right? But at the same time I've always wondered Like and I've never researched this really like how often It could break. It could come off, right? Because it's just a clip.

jme:

Well, and from what we read, they use cell phone towers and satellite. So they use those two tools to, pinpoint where the dog is at, one of the things that I worried about initially when we were talking about microchipping and that kind of thing, there was a concern that microchips could cause cancer. And they don't because they are a passive device. Mm hmm. So You need to sweep a wand over which sends out a radio signal. It bounces back that radio signal and that's how you get the number. The radio frequency. Yeah, but it's not on until you use the wand. But it's not transmitting only if you use the wand. So it's a completely passive device. It's just a little thing in the body. So, you know, they don't

Pate:

Size of a grain of rice.

jme:

Yeah, so they don't cause cancer. And I know how popular GPS is now and that was a concern initially. You know, maybe we should talk about Fi too before we go into that.

Pate:

Yeah, so the three that's more often used here, in this area is the Tractive and the Fi. F I. Yep, it's F I. We have that. Soi Dog went from Tractive to Fi and then the third one, I see so many air tags on dogs, right?

jme:

Well, and the, the Fi uses Wi Fi also. Wi Fi, cellular, and satellite. So they say it's a unique combination of ways to triangulate where the animal is, and that it can be more effective than tractive, which only uses the two options. So, That's just something to know but the Fi also does other things.

Pate:

Yeah, and then so that's more anecdotal Like some people like Tractive better than Phi. We have a Phi. Gary, my husband who's the lead trainer He got a Phi for Rob our Husky

jme:

Model citizen.

Pate:

I know.

jme:

Who didn't want to be on our podcast recently. She's a rude bitch. She was ignoring us.

Pate:

But because Gary is starting to work with them to do, Search and Rescue, and Again, backup plan. She's very,

jme:

she's so attached to him.

Pate:

I was going to say, yeah, I was going to say like, I don't even know that, you know, we go hiking or whatever that she would ever leave him. But again, backup plan, cause you never know. And so what Gary loves about the Phi is that not only can he see what she's doing, where she's going, everything like that, because, stalker dad, no, helicopter dad, right? The Phi will also, Kind of be like a Fitbit, you know?

jme:

Transmits health and activity data.

Pate:

And he's like, Ah, that bitch took more naps than I did today. Or, Oh, steps. Well, nap too. He's like, she's been sleeping for three hours. You know? And then they come out here at night, and at the end of the day, he'll compare their steps. And he's like, God, she got double my steps. And I was like, well, Same as how she runs back and forth. back and forth while you're walking forward. Cause she likes to investigate. She likes to say hi to her new squirrel friends and, you know, pee around the perimeter. So the coyotes don't come on property and stuff like that. So yeah, she does definitely get in more steps than her dad and there's proof now.

jme:

Well in the fi is its own collar. Is it made of silicone?

Pate:

No, it's. No, it's, it's, um, you know what, it feels, it feels like canvas, you know, like if you have an Apple watch or whatever, it feels like a normal collar, right? It feels like a Max and Neo collar. What is that? What is that?

jme:

Okay, that, that's nylon webbing.

Pate:

Okay. Okay. Is it? Oh, I thought it was, I don't know. I thought it was material like cotton or something.

jme:

No, it's nylon webbing. Cotton would. Weaken and rot.

Pate:

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So anyway, it's durable. It's a nice sleek design. I mean, it looks good. So if you're about looks, it looks good.

jme:

And this unit is The collar. Yeah, exactly. It's not, it doesn't come off like the tractive, but one of the disadvantages you were saying is that you can't then wash the collar.

Pate:

Right. The risk of it coming off the dog is definitely lower, but if you have a muddy dog, have fun with that. Yeah. Well, I'm sure you can wash it, but, but you have to wash it by hand. Right. So, yeah.

jme:

Being as this is then an active device and it's constantly transmitting between the dog and the towers and satellites, there has been a concern that that could cause They've done studies and said that the frequency is such a low radiation that your cell phone is worse. And I don't know. I don't think we'll be surprised when they tell us. definitely cell phones and Wi Fi cause cancer. I mean, it's just a matter of time.

Pate:

Right. But, but I mean, the thing is, is also depending, because it's such a low frequency and the radiation that's emitted is definitely not like radiation like an x ray, right? Where it's gonna change your cellular What's the word I'm looking for

jme:

like damage the cellular content or the

Pate:

yeah, it's gonna screw with your cells.

jme:

Mm hmm Yeah, yeah, um, this is why I hate using the thing at the airport, too Like I don't want to be x rayed every time I travel. I love when I get the metal detector Some for some reason.

Pate:

Oh, so you're like you're like the microchip

jme:

carrying the dog Through on on trips is a pain Direct pass to get the metal detector instead of the x ray.

Pate:

But then you have to wonder, like, the metal detector. I don't know. Oh, how would that work? Cause it's not an x, what? Cause you know my son has a pacemaker.

jme:

So he would have to go through the metal detector, right?

Pate:

No, they don't.

jme:

Hmm. Do they just wand him?

Pate:

I don't, may, I don't know.

jme:

Well, I know that having the dog with me, it ensures that I don't need to go through the x ray thing, so I do like that. But, so all the information out there says there's no too low risk.

Pate:

Right.

jme:

And you shouldn't worry about it. However, when, then it comes to the, Apple tags, what?

Pate:

Well, I was gonna say, like, also, such, since it's such a low frequency, and a dog's lifespan is shorter than ours. If it was going to cause cancer from long term exposure, maybe that long term is longer than 20 years.

jme:

Right. You know? Yeah. Like, would we even know? Right. If that's what's, what's happening.

Pate:

So maybe it does cause cancer. But the dogs, their longevity isn't,

jme:

yeah, pets aren't going to live long enough to, to experience that. Right. I cut you off.

Pate:

No, no, no, no worries. Cause I was thinking, you know, like by the time, like a lot of people, like say colon, colonoscopies, for example, they tell you to get them when you're like what, 50,

jme:

45.

Pate:

Well, I mean, I know, but before it was before it was 50.

jme:

Yeah.

Pate:

Um, a dog. Wouldn't need a colonoscopy. No, you know even even 50 and then we mark it down to 45 even if we mark it down to 40 So, you know like certain types of cancers and stuff like that may I mean these could cause cancer to that extent, but they don't live 45 years Right or whatever

jme:

and obviously again, this is just our kind of like

Pate:

and it's still new

jme:

logical rational Understanding expectations about, like, I really do think that they're going to find out that Wi Fi causes cancer. And, are we going to stop using Wi Fi? No. Are we going to stop using cell phones? No. So, you know, we're not going to do that. But, it, it is, it makes a lot of sense. Just, like, living near electrical lines, those big electrical towers can be a problem and can cause cancer. There are just certain things, like, electromagnetic fields and things like that, that, they mess with your body, so. But the

Pate:

Sometimes in a good way though.

jme:

Right. Apple iTag, we found

Pate:

AirTag.

jme:

Jesus, why did I, yeah. Apple AirTag Everything's an i, right? Except for their AirTags. Was never really meant to be on pets or living creatures?

Pate:

I think it was supposed to be like on your luggage and stuff.

jme:

On luggage, bags, you know, things, maybe your car, I don't know. I don't know. Keys, it has a different kind of frequency than has a little bit more radiation and while they you know, they Will tell you there's no risk,

Pate:

but they don't know they don't want you to they don't want you to put them on Yeah, Apple does not want you to put air tags on your pets.

jme:

Oh, well, that's good.

Pate:

They're supposed to be for inanimate objects.

jme:

So see, they probably do know something. They're just not going to say this is going to cause cancer, but

Pate:

they probably haven't researched it, you know,

jme:

but we have anecdotal, we, yeah, no, we just did a search and there was a Reddit. Forum where somebody asked about just one, the eye tag, and there were at least eight stories where people found a tumor, uh, where the, uh, the air tag was on, on their pet. So, I don't think it's unreasonable to think that, especially when they tell you not to put it on a live being just don't. Like, don't do it. And it seems like the, that one is, you know, what's it called when, not out for discussion. What's it called when you, What? When, when a group of people still need to make a decision and you say that's out.

Pate:

That it's no longer on the floor?

jme:

No, there's just like a term. All right. Well, it was going to be cliche anyway. Yes. So,

Pate:

Maybe someone can tell us what we're trying to say.

jme:

There's, there's no definitive. Yes or no, but

Pate:

there's no actual research that they've done,

jme:

but there was enough evidence that we saw that I wouldn't put one on my, on my pet.

Pate:

Right. Well, I mean, if you think about it, there's like some, some people, okay, so I don't do, do I call out Hartz? Do I call them out? Sure. Okay, fine. So say like Hartz brand, right? They have a flea and tick. medication. We refuse to put that on our dogs. Right. Has there been an actual research study done showing that this particular brand is not like the top tier that you should be putting topically on your dog. No, there's not actual research that I've seen. And I do like to research cause you know, I'm that science nerd. So I haven't seen actual research on that, but they're like, you know, with the anecdotal data for lack of a better word. Which, I mean, that is still a type of research. If someone got into it and got all this data from people, that is a type of research. Not the best type of research, but it's still a type, data, statistical. They would show that the Hartz causes a lot of, skin issues, sometimes neurological issues, things like that. So there's enough evidence from consumers, owners, that would show that maybe that's not the best thing that you should put on your, your pet.

jme:

Before I knew, I did. Use that. And okay, granted, I accidentally bought the wrong size. So my dog was 10 pounds. It was for a dog that was up to 20. She got really sick. She was throwing up. And she was really, really sick. So I was like, I realized I made the mistake. But I don't think that that would necessarily happen with Other types of medications that if you gave it for a dog a little bit bigger that it would make them that sick So

Pate:

Because there's a big range. I mean, we've got 40 to 80, right? And that's quite a bit of leeway. Yeah. You know?

jme:

Yeah. So, in our humble opinion, a non scientific study.

Pate:

Because it hasn't been done yet.

jme:

Yeah. We would say, don't use an I tag. Air tag. Air tag. You can tell I don't use an iPhone. An AirTag on a pet. They're not that reliable for the purpose anyways because it has a shorter range too. So.

Pate:

Oh yeah, and not just that, the battery life. So one of the things about Fi, I'm not, like, saying Fi is the best, but one of the things that's great about Fi

jme:

Only if they want to sponsor us.

Pate:

Yeah, hey, by the way.

jme:

Just kidding.

Pate:

Yeah, yeah. I've got another dog doing search and rescue. But anyway, Fi has, Longer battery life. Oh my god, the battery life is great. AirTags are annoying. When they start, because it warns you with beeps, so we have some dogs in our kennel that have air tags, and when they stop, they'll make beeps. Oh my god, I think Rosa and Cassidy have air tags.

jme:

Oh no.

Pate:

Oh no, we should tell them.

jme:

Yeah, we should tell them.

Pate:

Yeah. We can be like, look, this isn't scientific fact, but word on the street, yeah,

jme:

the jury's out for discussion, jury's out for deliberation. That was my phrase. The jury's out on that one.

Pate:

I don't think that's right either.

jme:

I'm going to say it is. That's, that's what I'm, I'm sticking to it. So there's a lot of technology out there. Things are always changing. We, try and keep up on things because sometimes things are really useful. Right. But in this instance, we, we really want to say that the GPS is really a backup plan and should not be your first.

Pate:

Go to

jme:

line of defense.

Pate:

Yeah. Yeah. Line of defense. That's what you said last night.

jme:

I almost forgot again. Yeah. Yeah.

Pate:

Yeah, definitely. It's not the first line of defense. But it's a great backup plan. Should something happen? Should you be separated from your pet for whatever reason?

jme:

if you had to fly with your pet, I would say putting a GPS tag on or a GPS collar on your dog could be a good idea. Do they make you take Colors off when the dogs go in the kennels at least you could maybe put an air tag on the dog's kennel but mm hmm that way if yeah the dog or cat I'm gonna we we tend to say dogs, but cats can usually go in the

Pate:

You know, I don't think they make cat, I'm going to have to now we're going to have to research that.

jme:

What?

Pate:

Because Fi is a dog collar, it is not a cat collar.

jme:

Mm hmm. But, but if you had to fly your dog, I would say putting a GPS on them would be a good idea because there are times when They lose your dogs and they don't know where they are.

Pate:

And the dogs get out of the kennel.

jme:

And when, I was going to Costa Rica and we were waiting for our surfboards and we were told they were gonna come down this elevator. Well, when the elevator opened, and we'd been waiting for half an hour, there was a dog in a kennel in there.

Pate:

Oh, geez.

jme:

Someone just put the dog in the kennel, shut the door, didn't send the elevator down. And the receiving person, because we actually had to ask security guards who weren't, this was not their job, this was not their responsibility. We had to ask them about it because we'd all been waiting for so long. And they were very upset to find out that there was a dog in a kennel, in that, elevator for over half an hour.

Pate:

I'd be pissed.

jme:

Yeah. So it wouldn't be a bad idea if you, if you are not required to take collars off of your pets when they fly, I would say that could be a really good thing because Yeah. What if they got on the wrong plane? Yeah. And that's happened before. That has happened before.

Pate:

Yeah, exactly. And then like, you don't get your dog, but if they had that, GPS tracker on, then you could look on your app because they conveniently have apps. And I can tell you that, I mean, I've looked at these apps, with Tractive. And, Fi. The AirTags, do they have apps?

jme:

I think so.

Pate:

I don't know. We don't use them. So,

jme:

yeah, and you have an iPhone too. But yeah, I don't even know.

Pate:

I love my iPhone. The only reason why I stick with iPhone is not because it's an Apple or anything like that. It's because it's got my music on it and I don't want to get new music.

jme:

That's funny. I don't have any music on my phone or my computer.

Pate:

Yeah.

jme:

I don't download things. I usually do streaming. But

Pate:

I like to pay for my artists. Okay.

jme:

Oh, well, but I have like gone to my streaming and downloaded my things so that I did have them on a car trip because one time I was annoyed that I couldn't listen because the streaming was cutting it.

Pate:

Oh, yeah, exactly.

jme:

And the same now that I've been turned on to, Audiobooks.

Pate:

Yeah, you can download your audiobooks.

jme:

I would much rather listen to an audiobook than the radio, which I used to rely on was the radio because I was just like, whatever, I'm not driving that much. I am driving a lot and I enjoy getting in the car because I'm reading a cool book.

Pate:

Um, I can't, I sleep to people reading to me.

jme:

Oh. Don't do that while you're driving.

Pate:

Yeah, no, not at all, I can't. I mean, because I use a calm app at night and so on. I'm like, I have tried to listen to Tom Hiddleston, his whole excerpt about Winnie the Pooh. And we have not reached the end of that little chapter.

jme:

If Bryan reads to me, I usually fall asleep within a few pages too, but I like the audio books. Maybe I'm reading books that are stimulating. I wouldn't fall asleep to because I want to know what's happening, but yeah, audio books is something that I recently discovered, and I'm super into them.

Pate:

Gary loves them. I mean, cause he'll, because he, you know, cause he being the lead trainer, if I haven't said that before, he reads a lot. He doesn't read actually. He listens to a lot of the dog books. And, stuff like that. So when he's working, he's listening to, the new science, the new,

jme:

He often uses a British male voice for his books. Why is that?

Pate:

I don't know. Um, I don't know. I mean, Or maybe I just catch him listening to the same person. It could be that. Yeah. Yeah. Because that's the thing is that like, uh, the audio books, as opposed to like our iPhone, um, The new iPhone update, I have to change because I miss my Irish accent person. Oh, yeah.

jme:

Your voice changed to a guy, like a Southern guy. And we were like, what? I was like, this isn't Pate. I was like, so confused. I was like, what the heck?

Pate:

I know. And then, and I didn't even know about it. And you texted me. You're like, why is there a guy on your, and I was like, you know what? That's weird. Because I felt like my maps person. got switched.

jme:

Do you know what happens to me when I'm, and Bryan can prove this, my GPS maps lady will be talking to me and all of a sudden she will say a sentence with an Australian accent. And then she will go back to speaking normal English.

Pate:

that's just because your phone's possessed.

jme:

I have a problem with technology. Things don't work for me the way that they work for everybody else. And this is proven. This is not me just saying that.

Pate:

It's not anecdotal. It's for sure.

jme:

It's freaking for sure. They think they, meaning my friends and people close to me, think I have some kind of weird magnetic field.

Pate:

Yeah.

jme:

Or I've also been told I'm just cursed or haunted.

Pate:

Yeah, see that's what I'm saying. You're haunted. Which is why I hope that you get your computer soon because

jme:

We're using patty's computer. I'm using Pate's new computer.

Pate:

So she better not taint it.

jme:

Yeah, I didn't even think about that

Pate:

You know where you pass that curse along. Yeah, like freaking the ring where here's the video Yeah your turn

jme:

i'm not gonna pass my technology cooties on to you, okay But yeah. All right. Well, I think that's really all that we have to say about GPS and callers and that kind of technology.

Pate:

Yeah. We're sure there's other GPS callers out there, but these are the three that, like I said, that we have. Worked with. Yeah. And that people here, I feel like air tags are one of the more popular ones just because they're easy. I don't think you need a subscription, whereas like Tractive and Fi, you pay a monthly subscription. And then having the Phi be, you know, aesthetically pleasing, as well as having that whole like Fitbit thing, um, that was one of the reasons why Gary got that for Rob, so personally, like we have Fi. Tracy has Tractive are her two monsters. But we do see a lot of air tags and it is a little concerning to hear. Multiple instances of tumors

jme:

where the tag was

Pate:

in the throat, like throat tumors specifically where the tags are.

jme:

Yeah. Cats and dogs. Yeah. And within a year of wearing them too. Oh. Or up. A short time.

Pate:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

jme:

Well, that's all the time we have for GPS trackers.

Pate:

We do like them.

jme:

We do like them. And, I would like to talk about other technological advances in the pet world, but we're going to have to do a little bit of research because, this was the only one we came up with for now, but, you know, like Petcube has some cool things and, uh,

Pate:

I do like Petcube. And what's that one that, Petcube's not the one that like throws out cheats. Is it?

jme:

No, they have one.

Pate:

Okay. All right.

jme:

Anyway, I'm Jamie

Pate:

I'm Pate. This is our podcast, Rescue Shit. Rock on.

jme:

Rescue on. But I also wanted to say if you have ideas for If you have ideas for us for pet technology or your experiences with Traktiv, Fi, AirTag, or any other things like that, email us at rescueshit at motleyzoo. org and now we're really leaving. Okay, bye.

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